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DANIEL CALLED THIS “ANTICHRIST”, “THE WORSHIPER OF ‘THE GOD OF FORCES’.” His language is a perfect fit for the new god that is promoted and worshiped in the emerging church world. “But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things”. “In his estate”, means in the place of. (Daniel 11:38) God The Father and His Son Jesus Christ are being replaced in the church world in preparation for a “New World Religion.” The religion of the Antichrist and his crowd of followers will be “Apostasied Christianity”. As you read this article please note how this beast of a god is a god of forces, human forces, instead of a Supernatural God that transcends the natural and the human world.

John The Revelator saw this same false god but saw it like a drama. “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.” (Revelation 13:1) This beast of a god is full of blasphemy against both the true God and the Raptured saints that are now in heaven. “And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.” (Revelation 13:6) Horrible blasphemy has begun and our church world is already a spiritual mess. Let’s trace this development from its beginning. Robert Schuller was one of the first names that came to my attention.

THE GOD OF FORCES AND HIS ANTICHRIST ARE QUICKLY REPLACING JEHOVAH GOD IN SO-CALLED “CHRISTIAN” CIRCLES. Man is at the center of this new theology. It is a synchronizing of New Age thought, psychology, and theology. It is also a subtle change from the Western mindset of God acting in all His transcending sovereignty to an Eastern mindset where God is subject to human whims and man-centeredness. It’s God with a little “g” and man with a capital “M”. Robert Schuller’s book, Self-Esteem: A New Reformation, was partially introduced by Dr. David Burns, Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania, with these words: “I have been reviewing with great interest your new book, Self-Esteem: The New Reformation…. It is surprising how our minds have come to a similar position—you have pursued a religious route and I have pursued a scientific path, and we have both arrived at the same bottom line: unconditional self-esteem, self-love that doesn’t have to be earned because it is given. I believe that the vision that forms the core of most religious thinking has to do with joy. From a psychiatric point of view, I would say man’s deepest flaw is to mistrust himself and to withhold love and self-acceptance…”

David Spangler, a name recognized in educational circles, has become a champion in the world of the psychologists and New Age thinkers. In his book, Revelation, “The Birth Of A New Age” he presents this new deity and describes his action in the evolutionary process. “The Christ is eternally the agent of rebirth throughout creation. He is the universal power and life that prevents stagnation, that invokes and nourishes growth and continuous unfoldment. He unites with the consciousness of what is and what has been and through that union gives birth to the consciousness of what can be and shall be. The life of the new is the life of the old that has been transformed, through some degree of union with the Christ, into a greater fulfillment and expansion In the presence of Christ, the past and the future become fused lovingly, creatively into the reality of manifestation in the living Now. Thus, the Cosmic Christ united with the consciousness of the Earth Logos in which were sunk the foundations of Earth and its past development and future potentials.” (Revelation, The Birth Of A New Age, David Spangler, p. 130.)

The teaching of the New Age personalities differs very slightly from the new leaders in charismatic and religious circles. They say the same things but use different terminology. In both camps God is treated with a little “g”. The center of thinking is man and the “god” or “christ” in them is the basis of their theology or psychology. Please notice several words in Spangler’s statements. Both New Agers and the new religious leaders use the term, “freedom of expression.” Choreographed dancing is called “freedom of expression.” The terms, “greater fulfillment” and “expression,” are used equally by both groups. Instead of losing ourselves in surrender, which is the New Testament basis for discipleship, it’s now finding fulfillment in being “me.” As one well-known person wrote, “I’ve gotta be me!” “New consciousness” is the key statement of New Agers and the new religious leaders. At a PTL conference just before the fateful fall, Rev. Tommy Reid, a leading Charismatic, said, “We have discovered a new world view and we are not returning to the old views.” (Paraphrased from a conference to discuss Dave Hunt’s book, Seduction of Christianity, PTL Conference Center, Charlotte, NC.) There are several other expressions in the short quote of Mr. Spangler that are parallel to the new theologies of our modern preachers. If your church is a new free style congregation, check the next few sermons for similar words tucked all throughout the message.

Faith teachers have raped one of the Bible’s most powerful words. “Faith” no longer means “the Faith” (sum total of all biblical truth) or “trust” in God’s promise, but man’s creative ability to produce miracles just like God performs them. Since man is a little god, they say, he is a creator also and his faith can cause miraculous things to happen. Paul Yonngi Cho said, “You can incubate a miracle in your mind.” This is raw Hinduism and turns God into a puppet manipulated by man. This is the new “beast of a god” being readied for the Antichrist’s “One World Order.”

Worship Styles: New Age Seduction! The new styles of worship filling our churches are straight from the New Age subculture. They have written the script. I visited a New Age setting in a Methodist church approximately 30 years ago and watched the choreographed dancers seduce the worshipers to this “new consciousness.” The human mind is a powerful part of our person and capable of transforming our entire system of thought by ingesting impulses which unite ideas and emotions. It appears to me that this should be labeled soulical and is the opposite of true spirituality. One is clearly limited to man and his environment, while true spirituality opens up our heart to communion with Jesus Christ our Savior and Jehovah God. The first is used by Satan to gain control of men’s lives, while the second is the center of man’s God-given spirit and can be the door to an indescribable relationship with Him.

There are numerous efforts to create all kinds of new experiences called worship, but the most prominent at this time is choreographed dancing, drama, and mime. Satan has always used human celebration connected with dance, art, drama, and music to break open the human psychic and then invade the personality with his influence and control. This was how the Babylonians made paganism a world religion and controlled the masses.

A recent article in Charisma Magazine (propaganda voice for radical Charismatics, Kingdom Dominion theorists, and other aversions from Classical Pentecostals) gave great coverage to Earl Paulk, Jr. (Harvester Church, Atlanta, GA. and presently fully discredited) and his effort to restore the arts of the church. This man, who lost his minister’s license in the Church of God for fornication, represents the most radical form of heresy in Charismatic circles. I guess it’s fitting that he is the voice for choreographed activity in our modern churches. These strange activities are introducing people to a new god unknown to the sheep, who are following these new mindless shepherds.

Daniel described this new god 2,500 hundred years ago and warned that he would be the choice of this brutal beast. “And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain” (Daniel 11:36-39). This new religion is not new at all but simply disguised in modern garb.

The new idol in charismatic circles is Benny Hinn of Texas. In a recent television program I watched as he performed for his audience. One unsuspecting gentleman approached and asked for the power of God. As Mr. Hinn trembled with his right hand in distortion, he asked “Are you sure you want the power of God?” “Yes,” came the reply. “But are you sure?” he asked again. “Yes!” Mr. Hinn with great emotion flung his hand toward the man. There was no apparent contact. The gentleman appeared to be miraculously jerked up and flung to the floor with a great power. The atmosphere was charged with powers from the god of forces, fleshly titillation.

Discerning Between Fleshly Titillation and God’s Power! Is this the power of God or is it the “god of forces?” Only the Bible can really answer this question. Paul stated, “And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power”. (1 Corinthians 2:1-4)

What was the demonstration of the power in biblical days? There was great conviction of sin, of judgment, and an awesome turning from the world to Godliness and a Christ-centered, cross-bearing lifestyle. There were also tremendous miracles, where sickness and evil spirits were broken from human lives. Great change was wrought in the people. However, none of the demonstrations we see in today’s mass televangelism was evident. Biblical precedence does not allow for the extreme emotionalism we are now witnessing. The difficulty, however, is that the line between great demonstrations of life-changing Holy Ghost power and cheap manipulation is not easy to discern.

It’s important that we don’t rule out genuine excitement and spiritual worship while we identify the extremes. As a pastor, I would never touch, nor desire to touch, anything in human expression that is honorable, sincere, and truly praises the Lord. But, anything that focuses attention on an actor performing for the people or on a type of mass hysteria, where emotions are enflamed by cheap psychology, must be rejected and stamped out. There is unquestionably a fine line between the work of the Holy Spirit and the work of deceiving spirits. The gift of discernment was given to the church to forever maintain the difference. We must use the wisdom and discernment imparted by that gift without fear or embarrassment. I’m sick of hearing these imposters in Pentecostal and Evangelical circles being protected in the name of Christian unity. It is not Christian unity to protect “false prophets,” it is “biblical irresponsibility.”

Religious Leaders Corrupted By Flattery! Prophets of God have always been men who have obeyed God without compromise. What the world states about them may hurt their heart because they care about souls, but it doesn’t intimidate them. They won’t bend, bow, or burn. Daniel warned that this season of Antichrist influence would be evident by covenant breakers, who would sell their souls for a mess of pottage. He said, “And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits” (Daniel 11:32). Satan’s henchmen are ever ready to confirm the individual who starts apostatizing in his new freedom. They will flatter you with every imaginable compliment. Anytime worldly Christians or unconverted people start bragging on you, something is wrong. If you don’t reject it immediately, you will be hooked by its influence.

Very few ministers or laypersons appear to be willing to stand up against this religious crowd. They are intimidating to say the least. While they spout openness, you will notice that this openness does not include us uncompromising Fundamentalists. Bible-believers are a threat to their control and their “new consciousness.” The very spirit of this mindset is satanic and any person who opposes them will be marked. First, they will seek to change you by “flatteries.” The pressure that will be directed toward an outspoken fundamentalist is indescribable. If flattery doesn’t work, then efforts will be made to destroy his or her character. Lies and distortion are acceptable tools if these can accomplish their goal. I know because I have been through both stages.

Paul the Apostle described this scenario for our warning, “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-12).

Please notice several key things in Paul’s warning. He admonishes us to not be “deceived by any means.” He then states that the Antichrist will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” He does it by deception. He replaces God with himself without the people realizing what’s happening. How does he do it?

He replaces the God of biblical reality with the “god of human forces.” Paul states, “Even him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish because they received not the love of the truth that they might be saved.”(2 Thessalonians 2:9-10) The words “power, signs, and lying wonders” are expressive of this new god. But, notice these “forces” are set in contrast to the words, “because they received not the love of the truth.” Simply, they love fleshly titillation, an exciting display of signs and wonders, more than they love truth. A minister with a big display of so-called miracles will draw thousands, while Godly ministers of truth will be preaching to a remnant of the faithful. You may want to notice that the miracles in these mega centers are always the kind that cannot be confirmed. The real supernatural miracles are still happening quietly in inconspicuous places.

“And for this cause, God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.” (2 Thessalonians 2:11) When you enter a New Age style church, you take your spiritual life into your own hands. These churches are entertaining and present enough fun things to do to completely inoculate you. They will first “deliver” you from all past “restrictions.” One of the first steps in freeing people from convictions of godliness and holiness is to label them as legalistic and regressive. You have been in bondage, they will say, but Jesus (the new Jesus) wants you free. Remember, the words of David Spangler, “freedom of expression” and “new consciousness.” Everything that feels good and okay to you is permissible in this new environment. According to these new prophets, standards of the Bible were cultural and, therefore, not relevant to today. God/god wants you to be everything you can be by freeing you from all past fetters. It’s amazing to see the real results: adultery filling churches, effeminate men and masculine women on the organ bench and in the choir and singing groups, cigarette smokers servings as ushers and every expression of the world in the church.

There is one thing, however, that this new god cannot produce — holiness and righteousness are beyond his capacity. He will create a contrived substitute high on smiles and the Dale Carnegie personality, but woefully lacking in the selfless lifestyle of the “cross of Christ.” Missing also will be the unspeakable joy that is evident when someone walks in unhindered discourse with the Lord Jesus Christ. I have found the “pearl of great price” and desire no other.

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  1. The christian churches have an Identity Crisis. You should go to press —————–on his youtube and listen to his massage. Or go on youtube search and put in ————– Identity Crisis

  2. Garry Dougherty

    Todays god is the convenience god, the intertainment god, the feel good god, the god thats puts us on the pedistal …….. (Satan)

  3. Well, Pastor Joseph, your presentation here was masterful and right on target. Satan, naturally, is the agent behind the rampant deception infecting our churches and is introducing idolatry of the worse type – the kind where we humans set ourselves in the place of God. Now isn’t this EXACTLY what the Antichrist will do some 3 1/2 years into the Tribulation?

    Looks to me like humanity is already being primed and set up for the “man of sin” to stride right into the rebuilt temple while most of the world shouts his praises as he does it. I suppose what alarms me the most is how clueless most of organized religion is about what is happening here and where it is leading.

    So, Pastor, thanks again for sounding the alarm.

  4. Great article!! This is pure truth and scary too. I’ll cling t
    o the cross and await the appearing of the Lord in the clouds, I want out of here!!!!! Who’s with me?

  5. Yes, brother Joseph!
    Please do not take me wrong here, years ago this ‘x loom’ who came to Jesus exposed the ilumminati of their tactics, by infiltrating all the Protestant (and Catholic) denominations, he (Todd) paid w/his life for telling the truth. People have to understand that the Lord did foil a lot of their plans but many did mature and because of this the Church is suffering!
    For those that are not familiar w/Todd you can do a search eng and listen to the ‘u – tube’ audios, the Pentecost movement is of God but like other denominations it has been infiltrated w/wolves in sheep clothing, Pastor Chambers (and others) have stayed true to the Great commission of Jesus our Savior, Father and Spirit. Those who are young (& not so) need to understand the alluring and sinister tactics of Satan, it’s really getting bad, Satan is swaying many Christians (w/influence) in the 30 – 50 yr old range (many on the w coast) by bring in this new world peganism where many cannot discern this time of where were at in this age (true eschatology) – we need to pray for ‘those’ who are young in the faith, these are dangerous times (spiritually) and it really seems that ‘this’ nation is being Judged, right now, the Gift Jesus offers needs to be let known to all we meet, His shout could be much sooner than later.
    Christians need to get informed of the ways of the freemasons, the last Petrus Romanus (pope) and the Vatican coop on Jerusalem and the draconian eugenics along w/the blending of man and machine, not sure how much of this that we (Christians) will see, those that are Saved during Daniels 70th week will see horror.

    Hebrews chapter. 13,
    lets make sure we
    do all w/a gentle
    heart but be firm,
    theirs way to much
    watering down today

    May God Bless &
    Keep You All, He
    is coming very soon

  6. Lydia V. W. Idaho

    All sad, but true. Mercy and grace upon us to stand in God’s will, our eyes upon the name of Jesus of Nazaret and wait for His coming………….come Lord, we are waiting. I love Lord with all my might and all what is in me. Thank you for such a good work, br. Love, Lydia

  7. I agree with 98% of what ya say here. However, you are tending to get “pharisee-ical” You say “cigarette smokers serving as ushers”. Do you drink coffeee? Do ya drink tea? Do ya drink sof drinks? Do you eat chocolate? Caffine is a “mood enhancing DRUG” You say it’s wrong that someone uses tobacco, because it is considered a “drug”, yet ya continue to eat/drink foods that have drugs in them. Thik about it. That’s hypocritcal. You don’t smoke (and that’s a good thing), because you think it ruins the human body,yet you freely breathe the crap that comes outta tail pipes of every automobile / motor in America, which also destroys your body.But folks then would say,” but that is something that can’t be helped” , when in essences, it surely can. Folks just figure it is way too much of a hassle to wear a cotton dust mask everywhere they go, thereby standing by their convictions. That, to me, is just like the Pharisees were. They preach one thing, yet don’t abide by it themselves. Sorta like the Law Enforcement community all across America these days (but they WILL stand in front of God Almighty one day and have to give account of their total wickedness, Praise God). As the wise King Soloman says in 2 Chron 6:36 (for there is no man which sinneth not,) be very careful what ya preach, cause SOMEONE is watching ya, just waiting for ya to slip up.

    The rest of the article is pretty much spot on and I do commend ya for that.

  8. This churches are the whore of satan, they have not a crises they are seduced by the angel of light, and will go to hell, all of them, hallelulja, their falling away is our hoppe.

  9. It is interesting how this thing has progressed. Bro. Chambers gave part of it in an otherwise excellent treatise. Before Robert Schuller was Norman Vincent Peale. After Schuller it is Rick Warren and the various New Age/contemplative/New Age churchianity associations he has. Another interesting asociation along this lineage: Peale (33rd degree Scottish Rite AF&AM), Schuller (33rd degreee Scottish Rite and Warren, member of the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations).

    Jesus said ye shall know them by their fruits. Jesus MUST be in the Church and be its Head or HE IS OUT OF IT. Given the above and Bro. Chambers writing, it is not hard to understand why Jesus is no longer welcome: Revelation 3:20. Good day.


    Dear Joe Chambers,

    Most of the big “churches” today are not temples of TRUE WORSHIP of the God of the Bible, but are really GLORIFIED ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS. The have lots of fun rock music and dancing. Maybe these should be classified as CONCERT HALLS OR PREFORMING ARTS CENTERS. They even have seats like in movie theaters. The have coffee shops. Some have LIQUOR BARS. They have lots of banquets in their cafeterias. The have games. Some have CHURCH RUN COUNTRY CLUBS (family life centers). Some of the richer ones even have swimming pools. When the preacher preaches, he does not preach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, but he PREACHES THE PORK-BARREL (These preachers sound exactly like the Politicians in Washington DC with the promises of benefits) GOSPEL OF PROSPERITY PREACHING. They promise you that “GOD WILL MULTIPLY YOUR INCOME 100 FOLD IF YOU GIVE MONEY TO THEM”. If all these promises were fulfilled, America would be at least 10 times richer than it is today. There is not that much money in all the banks in the world today. So these PORK-BARREL PREACHERS sound exactly like the Politicians that promise to bring the bacon to their districts. Of course the PORKBARREL PREACHERS ARE INVOLVED IN FRAUDULENT PROMISES THAT THEY CANNOT DELIVER. Because so many people beieve the false promises or prosperity, THEY HAVE GOTTEN RECKLESS WITHE THEIR FIANCES AND BOUGHT BIG HOUSES, FANCY CARS, FANCY CLOTHES, drained out their savings, to live it high, and RAN UP THEIR CREDIT CARDS: all this led to OVERSPENDING. People went deep into debt. THIS CRUSHED THE BANKS, BECAUSE OF BROKEN MORTGAGES. The Federal Government had to bail out the banks. If the preachers had preached the True Gospel and told people that HARD TIMES WERE AHEAD. People would not have gotten quite so reckless with their fiances. They would have built up their savings accounts. Pay down credit cards. If it wasn’t for the PORK-BARREL PREACHERS with their false promises, we might not be in this DEPRESSION today. THIS DEPRESSION IS THE FAULT OF THE PORK-BARREL PREACHERS!!! THE PORK-BARREL ARE GUILTY OF CAUSING THIS DEPRESSION!!!! Their false promises made the people careless with their finances, which led to foreclosures, and BROKEN BANKS. BLAME THE PORK-BARREL PROSPERITY PREACHERS FOR THIS!!!. Eventually this will lead to the RISE OF THE ANTI-CHRIST. The GOD OF FORCES that the Anti-Christ worships will be the MILITARY, SUCH AS THE ARMIES, NAVIES, AND AIR FORCES. These are what he might worship. Another god of forces that he might worship is SECULAR HUMANISM which has been the State Church since the Supreme Court OUTLAWED SCHOOL PRAYER TO THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.


    Keith Black

  11. Please do not take me wrong here, years ago this ‘x loom’ who came to Jesus exposed the ilumminati of their tactics, by infiltrating all the Protestant (and Catholic) denominations.

    I’m sorry, the Catholic Church is the Church, not a denomination. To become a denomination a group has to “leave the naming” (de + nomine). The Catholic Faith is the belief named by Jesus as being founded by Him on Simon bar Jona, renamed by Jesus “Rocky” (Matt 16:17-19) is that same as that preached from the Upper Room in Jerusalem in AD 33. The reason why the Catholic Church has lasted for 1978 years (1979 in May) is because, as its Founder had declard, it is built on a ruck, Jesus, the cornerstone, and Peter, a “chip” off the ol’ block.

    Exalting the Book of Revelation over all the other books of the NT is an old heresy which has bothered Christianity for centuries. Jesus told us directly that ONLY the Father knows the future and Jesus told His Apostles NOT to worry about tomorrow, today has enough problems of its own.

    When will you folks start reading the Gospels a lot more closely and stop this futile effort to attempt to read the mind of God?

    Protestants like yourself are part of groups that have left that Church.

  12. I agree with much of what you are saying and have walked out of a few churches who are doing this. I am a Jewish believer. I do disagree with you on Dance. Even David danced and gave Praise to G-d. Dance and Praise have always been used throughout Judaism worship. But I think it is called discernment. When we have the Holy Spirit Ruach HaKodesh He is able to discern the truth in our hearts and we know what is Truth. Yeshua is our Truth.

    My husband left me for a cult (Jehovah Witnesses) and I have to laugh when you use the “little g” Because this is what he (my husband) did arguing with me saying I was worshiping the “little g” reverse. Our Lord put me in a spiritual warfare battle especially with our children and Yeshua won it in me. Praise His Name Yeshua kept protection over our children and continues to this day.

    We are in the midst of a battle.

  13. LET THY GARMENTS BE ALWAYS WHITE; AND LET THY HEAD LACK NO OINTIMENT. ECCLESIASTES 9:8 HALLELUJAH TO OUR JESUS!!!! Who IS KING of kings and LORD of lords. ” Which in His times He shall show, who is THE BLESSED and ONLY POTENTATE,THE KING of kings, and LORD of lord ” 1ST. TIMOTHY 6:15

  14. Dear Pastor,

    We call part of what you have explained as “Churchianity”, the sensual, fleshy adoration of self, rather than the true love and commandments that we are to keep as instructed by our Lord Jesus.

    How can we work out our own salvation with fear and trembling and be on a power trip at the same time?

    Very good and detailed article.

    God Bless

    i will loose my home internet service( mar 24th) for a few months, however my prayers are with you and the disciples at this site.

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  16. SEan, the Catholics are a denomination and are NOT the church. The church is a body of believers in Christ. They may or may not even belong to a church denomination. There is nothing in the bible that proclaims catholicness to be the “Church” of Jesus’s believers. There are so many wrong teaching by the Catholics I don’t even know where to begin. But I will say one thing – Mary did not ascend to Heaven and become “THE QUEEN”. And she was not sinless. She was favored by God. NO ONE, not one is without sin. And that is in the bible!

  17. I have to say that is a very funny picture. I mean, Osteen of all people. Is this to imply that he is a type of antichrist?