Comments on: The Whore & Her Children http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children Pastor Joseph Chambers Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:40:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Joan Rogers http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children/comment-page-1#comment-20001 Joan Rogers Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:55:06 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3598#comment-20001 I am a Born again Bible believing Christian,and I was appaled as I watched the news one day,as their Pope Benedict looked right into the camera sternly saying, if you are not Catholic, you are not saved, if you want to be saved you have to become Catholic.That is a false teaching from hell, only Jesus saves & He alone is the Only way John3:3 /John14:6/Rom.10:9,10,and the Catholics believe God gave that Church,they call the Catholic Religion "The Church" God gave His Only Son John3:16, God never gave a church. We born again believers abiding in Christ are the Church,it is Spiritual & grows as Souls become born again adding daily to the Church of God in Christ Jesus.Where God dwells,amen..John1:13 Only God can draw you unto His Son for Salvation & forgiveness by His shed Blood Eph.1:7,Rev.3:20 is the lay out for salvation in Christ ,by belieivng & asking Him into your heart as Lord & Savior,then they say "The Church" Catholic Religion, is the Pillar of truth..I believe God is the Only Pillar of truth..God said, He is Holy & He cannot Lie, God said, all man is a liar. Join to God thru Christ Jesus not unto a Religion or a Denomination for Salvation & everlasting Life, Jesus finished His Work on the cross,All we can do is believe God & receive Christ into our hearts for salvation, repenting away from sins to Christ Luke13:3 & confessing all sins to God & if we are truly repentant Luke13:3 He will hear our heart & forgive us "only by the power of the shed Blood of Christ..Ithink it is high time God's Church stands up & tells the world the truth of the Word of God, and God Bless you Paw Creek Ministries for doing just that.Joan Rogers I am a Born again Bible believing Christian,and I was appaled as I watched the news one day,as their Pope Benedict looked right into the camera sternly saying, if you are not Catholic, you are not saved, if you want to be saved you have to become Catholic.That is a false teaching from hell, only Jesus saves & He alone is the Only way John3:3 /John14:6/Rom.10:9,10,and the Catholics believe God gave that Church,they call the Catholic Religion “The Church” God gave His Only Son John3:16, God never gave a church. We born again believers abiding in Christ are the Church,it is Spiritual & grows as Souls become born again adding daily to the Church of God in Christ Jesus.Where God dwells,amen..John1:13 Only God can draw you unto His Son for Salvation & forgiveness by His shed Blood Eph.1:7,Rev.3:20 is the lay out for salvation in Christ ,by belieivng & asking Him into your heart as Lord & Savior,then they say “The Church” Catholic Religion, is the Pillar of truth..I believe God is the Only Pillar of truth..God said, He is Holy & He cannot Lie, God said, all man is a liar.
Join to God thru Christ Jesus not unto a Religion or a Denomination for Salvation & everlasting Life, Jesus finished His Work on the cross,All we can do is believe God & receive Christ into our hearts for salvation, repenting away from sins to Christ Luke13:3 & confessing all sins to God & if we are truly repentant Luke13:3 He will hear our heart & forgive us “only by the power of the shed Blood of Christ..Ithink it is high time God’s Church stands up & tells the world the truth of the Word of God, and God Bless you Paw Creek Ministries for doing just that.Joan Rogers

]]> By: jamie madden http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children/comment-page-1#comment-10897 jamie madden Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:41:11 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3598#comment-10897 Dear Pastor Chambers To those who think we cannot see what is going on... can you I support the intent of your article, yes we the Church(s) of the Americas stand justly accused of the charge of apostasy, we talk about it all the time. Please read the the rest of Pastor Chambers epistles and you'll find a devout shepard doing his best to lead his flock through this horrible mess. The old city of Rome was called Satyr back in the days of the Chaldeans about 700 B.C. funny thats 666 in Chaldean... seems the R.C. Church has a big jump on all of us! My sheep know my voice, Who's fooling who? God Bless My Chrsitian Bretheren jamie Dear Pastor Chambers

To those who think we cannot see what is going on… can you

I support the intent of your article, yes we the Church(s) of the Americas stand justly accused of the charge of apostasy, we talk about it all the time. Please read the the rest of Pastor Chambers epistles and you’ll find a devout shepard doing his best to lead his flock through this horrible mess.

The old city of Rome was called Satyr back in the days of the Chaldeans about 700 B.C.
funny thats 666 in Chaldean… seems the R.C. Church has a big jump on all of us!

My sheep know my voice, Who’s fooling who?

God Bless My Chrsitian Bretheren
jamie

]]> By: Luke http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children/comment-page-1#comment-10829 Luke Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:23:20 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3598#comment-10829 Alberto Riviera who was a Spanish Jesuit Priest (the church tried to deny he ever existed-best defense of all) back in the 50's and 60's left the church and spoke of the endless treacheries committed by Rome and of the more treacheries still to come i.e. taking back the UK and having a major influence over the USA. Look at the many practising catholics involved in politics all over Europe, and see what has become of them!! Some of my closest friends are catholics and they have a love of God, however their ultimate passion is with the Catholic system. Basically the catholic system is one huge cult, that its practices contradict the fundamental teachings of Christ, have no sincere concerns for people's souls and welfare! Alberto Riviera who was a Spanish Jesuit Priest (the church tried to deny he ever existed-best defense of all) back in the 50′s and 60′s left the church and spoke of the endless treacheries committed by Rome and of the more treacheries still to come i.e. taking back the UK and having a major influence over the USA. Look at the many practising catholics involved in politics all over Europe, and see what has become of them!! Some of my closest friends are catholics and they have a love of God, however their ultimate passion is with the Catholic system. Basically the catholic system is one huge cult, that its practices contradict the fundamental teachings of Christ, have no sincere concerns for people’s souls and welfare!

]]> By: juanita goben http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children/comment-page-1#comment-10746 juanita goben Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:18:39 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3598#comment-10746 I Totally find your information accurate, being raised catholic myself and . either have been saved . I Think most denoms today are joining the 'whore's thinking on salvation. they leave out the fact that regeneration is needed by faith alone , grace is the key we are saved , not by works after salvation , we are saved by GOD'S grace , which is sufficient to the day of redemption , The catholic church goes so far as to say , it is only thru the 'church ' one can be saved , and then turns around and teaches ' clasifications of sin ' which in turn they can only hope for heaven , thats where purgatory comes in -- ONE DOCTRINE JESUS SAVES TO THE UTTERMOST == having nailed ALL sin to HIS cross . Either HE PAID it all , or we are left to our own demise I Totally find your information accurate, being raised catholic myself and . either have been saved . I Think most denoms today are joining the ‘whore’s thinking on salvation. they leave out the fact that regeneration is needed by faith alone , grace is the key we are saved , not by works after salvation , we are saved by GOD’S grace , which is sufficient to the day of redemption , The catholic church goes so far as to say , it is only thru the ‘church ‘ one can be saved , and then turns around and teaches ‘ clasifications of sin ‘ which in turn they can only hope for heaven , thats where purgatory comes in — ONE DOCTRINE JESUS SAVES TO THE UTTERMOST == having nailed ALL sin to HIS cross . Either HE PAID it all , or we are left to our own demise

]]> By: Tom http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children/comment-page-1#comment-10744 Tom Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:10:55 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3598#comment-10744 Sir, There is a movement in the Roman Catholic Church concerning the salvation status of non-Catholics. The church has gradually changed from an exclusivist to an inclusivist position, accepting of the validity of other Christian denominations and of other religions. This was the great shift in the Vatican 2 position. It is the acceptance of other religions that deny the gospel of Jesus Christ that define the whore. This can be the catholic church or any other denomination. "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 Without Jesus there is no salvation. Concerning the Catholic church The "Dogmatic Constitution on the Church - Lumen Gentium" (1964) The fate of non-Catholics, as expressed at Vatican II: The non-Christian may not be blamed for his ignorance of Christ and his Church; salvation is open to him also, if he seeks God sincerely and if he follows the commands of his conscience, for through this means the Holy Ghost acts upon all men; this divine action is not confined within the limited boundaries of the visible Church. What I read in this is that you can get to heaven without Jesus. . Sir, There is a movement in the Roman Catholic Church concerning the salvation status of non-Catholics. The church has gradually changed from an exclusivist to an inclusivist position, accepting of the validity of other Christian denominations and of other religions. This was the great shift in the Vatican 2 position.

It is the acceptance of other religions that deny the gospel of Jesus Christ that define the whore. This can be the catholic church or any other denomination. “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 Without Jesus there is no salvation.

Concerning the Catholic church The “Dogmatic Constitution on the Church – Lumen Gentium” (1964) The fate of non-Catholics, as expressed at Vatican II: The non-Christian may not be blamed for his ignorance of Christ and his Church; salvation is open to him also, if he seeks God sincerely and if he follows the commands of his conscience, for through this means the Holy Ghost acts upon all men; this divine action is not confined within the limited boundaries of the visible Church.

What I read in this is that you can get to heaven without Jesus.

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]]> By: Sandra http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children/comment-page-1#comment-10742 Sandra Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:58:19 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3598#comment-10742 Matters not which pope it was, they all think they are KINGS and that their flock must come to them for forgiveness. My fiance grew up Catholic and he can attest to the errors they teach. (I am not saying that there are not some good faith practicing Catholics out there - I am sure there are.) But for the most part, he was told just trust that God will let you go to HEaven and you will. That you should pray to MAry. That there is a Purgatory. Thankfully now, he has changed his mind, heart and soul. He has accepted Jesus and is a Christian. He understands the difference. Any Catholic thinking they can not pray directly to Jesus/God/Holy Spirit for their forgiveness is sadly mislead. There is also a story out, of how one of the popes, and I can't remember which one, had actually changed his name. He was originally a salesman that sold all the chemicals to Natzis for killing the jews. After this he became frightened and turned to RELIGION. He became a bishop and then rose to pope very quickly. Perhaps to quickly!! (I believe the name of the book is the Unseen Hand, not sure of Author). There is also what is called the Black Vatican, and I would suggest you research it, especially if any of you readers are going to defend the Catholic Church to the end. The black vatican is nothing more than a shadow control over the Church, and it is run by Satanic means. VERY SAD!! Matters not which pope it was, they all think they are KINGS and that their flock must come to them for forgiveness. My fiance grew up Catholic and he can attest to the errors they teach. (I am not saying that there are not some good faith practicing Catholics out there – I am sure there are.) But for the most part, he was told just trust that God will let you go to HEaven and you will. That you should pray to MAry. That there is a Purgatory. Thankfully now, he has changed his mind, heart and soul. He has accepted Jesus and is a Christian. He understands the difference. Any Catholic thinking they can not pray directly to Jesus/God/Holy Spirit for their forgiveness is sadly mislead. There is also a story out, of how one of the popes, and I can’t remember which one, had actually changed his name. He was originally a salesman that sold all the chemicals to Natzis for killing the jews. After this he became frightened and turned to RELIGION. He became a bishop and then rose to pope very quickly. Perhaps to quickly!! (I believe the name of the book is the Unseen Hand, not sure of Author). There is also what is called the Black Vatican, and I would suggest you research it, especially if any of you readers are going to defend the Catholic Church to the end. The black vatican is nothing more than a shadow control over the Church, and it is run by Satanic means. VERY SAD!!

]]> By: Jeff http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children/comment-page-1#comment-10741 Jeff Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:58:01 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3598#comment-10741 Hello: I'm sorry to have to correct all of you on this, but there was no "Pope John Paul IV." No such person ever existed. There was, however, a Pope Paul the VI(sixth). See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Paul_VI . He was pope from 1963 to 1978. He did not die shorty after stating: “The smoke of Satan has entered the Sanctuary.” He died in 1978. Whether or not this quote attributed to pope Paul VI is accurate is another matter. That quote comes from Fr. Malachi Martin in his book "Windswept House" published in 1996; see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windswept_House:_A_Vatican_Novel . His book is regarded as a novel and is quoted frequently by Catholic haters and detractors. There was another pope who ony lived 30 days. He was Pope John Paul 1. He was chosen to succeed pope Paul VI Henry Makow, Ph.d, has written a lengthy article exposing Malachi Martin as a fraud and agent provocateur, whose real intention was to create chaos and promote himself. Please see his article entitled "Bursting the Malchi Martin Bubble" at: http://www.henrymakow.com/malachi_martin_1.html The rest of Pastor Chamber's writing is filled with inaccuracies and partial truths and seems to express a personal vendetta against the Catholic Church -- does not reinforce the teachings of Christ nor lead to salvation. The above writing insults the intelligence and deprives the reader of truth. There are currently more than 20,000 denominational sects in the U.S. And Almost without exception, all are competing for money and membership and all are worshiping a false god. The American Church is far more "pagan" and apostate than anything ever conceived in Rome. The American church is filthy and vile and corrupt beyond words. It is empty worship, lip service and filled with "Men pleasers." No one will stand up for Freedom. No one cares about the truth. The only interest is in worshiping the works of their own hands and maintaining their 501(c)(3) tax exempt status and getting money from the government (faith based initatives) or scamming the people with fake programs and missions, keeping them distracted from what is really going on. No wonder the Muslims are winning in America! The American protestant church has become a WHORE where "ministers" steal from their congregations, lie and cheat the people; where condemnation of sin is rarely heard nor salvation from it ever mentioned. Mega churches only exist to fascinate and entertain the sheople while depriving them of their souls and only hope of salvation. Satan rules these whore churches as surely as he rules obama. JEFF, THIS HAS BEEN CORRECTED. THE PROPER POPE WAS POPE JOHN PAUL I. Joseph Hello:
I’m sorry to have to correct all of you on this, but there was no “Pope John Paul IV.” No such person ever existed. There was, however, a Pope Paul the VI(sixth). See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Paul_VI . He was pope from 1963 to 1978.
He did not die shorty after stating: “The smoke of Satan has entered the Sanctuary.” He died in 1978. Whether or not this quote attributed to pope Paul VI is accurate is another matter.
That quote comes from Fr. Malachi Martin in his book “Windswept House” published in 1996; see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windswept_House:_A_Vatican_Novel . His book is regarded as a novel and is quoted frequently by Catholic haters and detractors. There was another pope who ony lived 30 days. He was Pope John Paul 1. He was chosen to succeed pope Paul VI
Henry Makow, Ph.d, has written a lengthy article exposing Malachi Martin as a fraud and agent provocateur, whose real intention was to create chaos and promote himself. Please see his article entitled “Bursting the Malchi Martin Bubble” at: http://www.henrymakow.com/malachi_martin_1.html
The rest of Pastor Chamber’s writing is filled with inaccuracies and partial truths and seems to express a personal vendetta against the Catholic Church — does not reinforce the teachings of Christ nor lead to salvation.
The above writing insults the intelligence and deprives the reader of truth. There are currently more than 20,000 denominational sects in the U.S. And Almost without exception, all are competing for money and membership and all are worshiping a false god. The American Church is far more “pagan” and apostate than anything ever conceived in Rome. The American church is filthy and vile and corrupt beyond words. It is empty worship, lip service and filled with “Men pleasers.” No one will stand up for Freedom. No one cares about the truth. The only interest is in worshiping the works of their own hands and maintaining their 501(c)(3) tax exempt status and getting money from the government (faith based initatives) or scamming the people with fake programs and missions, keeping them distracted from what is really going on. No wonder the Muslims are winning in America!
The American protestant church has become a WHORE where “ministers” steal from their congregations, lie and cheat the people; where condemnation of sin is rarely heard nor salvation from it ever mentioned. Mega churches only exist to fascinate and entertain the sheople while depriving them of their souls and only hope of salvation. Satan rules these whore churches as surely as he rules obama.

JEFF, THIS HAS BEEN CORRECTED. THE PROPER POPE WAS POPE JOHN PAUL I.
Joseph

]]> By: TGIC http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children/comment-page-1#comment-10723 TGIC Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:13:07 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3598#comment-10723 "The only religions the Whore of Rome hates are Orthodox Jews and fundamental Christians." Obviously you are unaware of the general definition of the word 'Catholic'. It means 'universal' and therefore accepts all those who proclaim God has come in the flesh(Jesus); that He was crucified, died, buried, rose and ascended into heaven. Being 'universal', there is no hate for anyone and all are welcome to come to the fullness of faith in her. The only hate for others I see being preached here is by Chambers and those he has blinded with his lies. I am reminded of a passage that speaks of such false preachers..the blind lead the blind and they both fall into the pit. There is already great darkness in anyone who bears false witness as this article has done. Anyone who has eyes to see and ears to hear; run as fast as you can away from the false gospel preached in this article! “The only religions the Whore of Rome hates are Orthodox Jews and fundamental Christians.” Obviously you are unaware of the general definition of the word ‘Catholic’. It means ‘universal’ and therefore accepts all those who proclaim God has come in the flesh(Jesus); that He was crucified, died, buried, rose and ascended into heaven. Being ‘universal’, there is no hate for anyone and all are welcome to come to the fullness of faith in her.

The only hate for others I see being preached here is by Chambers and those he has blinded with his lies. I am reminded of a passage that speaks of such false preachers..the blind lead the blind and they both fall into the pit. There is already great darkness in anyone who bears false witness as this article has done.

Anyone who has eyes to see and ears to hear; run as fast as you can away from the false gospel preached in this article!

]]> By: Pasi http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children/comment-page-1#comment-10720 Pasi Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:24:56 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3598#comment-10720 Very pleased to read straight teaching about this difficult matter. Cristians are giving up their true faith and doctrines to follow lukewarm teachings that accept many strange doctrines and practices. This 'critikos' concerning catholics and charismatic pentecostals is well done because you pay attention to doctrines and manifestations and not so much to persons who make these. I agree with you that we should not fear but stand fearless in our defence of Truth. God bless you in Lord Jesus. Very pleased to read straight teaching about this difficult matter. Cristians are giving up their true faith and doctrines to follow lukewarm teachings that accept many strange doctrines and practices. This ‘critikos’ concerning catholics and charismatic pentecostals is well done because you pay attention to doctrines and manifestations and not so much to persons who make these. I agree with you that we should not fear but stand fearless in our defence of Truth. God bless you in Lord Jesus.

]]> By: Recovering Protestant http://www.pawcreek.org/prophetic-news-alerts/the-whore-her-children/comment-page-1#comment-10714 Recovering Protestant Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:05:03 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3598#comment-10714 If any of you believe the b.s. in this article, I have a crystal clear blue water lake in the middle of the desert I would like to sell you. I'll sell it to any and all takers as it must be true: repeat a lie, (or in this case, lies) long enough, and some fool, (or in this case, fools) will believe it. Anyone truly seeking the Truth of the Gospel of Christ will see through this propaganda. There are so many errors repeated in this article and these posts, I wouldn't know where to begin to address them. What I can say for certainty is this: If you had to leave the Catholic Church (or any church) to 'find' Jesus, you never were truly seeking Him. Jesus promised that if you seek, you shall find. So who is the liar? If any of you believe the b.s. in this article, I have a crystal clear blue water lake in the middle of the desert I would like to sell you. I’ll sell it to any and all takers as it must be true: repeat a lie, (or in this case, lies) long enough, and some fool, (or in this case, fools) will believe it.

Anyone truly seeking the Truth of the Gospel of Christ will see through this propaganda.

There are so many errors repeated in this article and these posts, I wouldn’t know where to begin to address them. What I can say for certainty is this: If you had to leave the Catholic Church (or any church) to ‘find’ Jesus, you never were truly seeking Him. Jesus promised that if you seek, you shall find. So who is the liar?

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