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	<description>Pastor Joseph Chambers</description>
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		<title>By: Pastor Jailal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pastor Jailal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 05:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Praise God for voices of truth in a world of apostasy and the rise of the Antichrist. Wake up America!</description>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 00:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you brother Chambers.

I have not yet found a solid church. They are there but few and far between. Time to sit in His presence and be taught by His word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you brother Chambers.</p>
<p>I have not yet found a solid church. They are there but few and far between. Time to sit in His presence and be taught by His word.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, brother Joseph! 

Though technically the church may not have yet reached the full &quot;harlotry status&quot; which it will as it comes to worship the Antichrist, it certainly is easy to see by its ready acceptance of the &quot;doctrines of demons&quot; being promoted today how it will reach that place in the Tribulation. The spirit of the Antichrist is already obviously successfully at work How much more so once the Rapture occurs and the Holy Spirit&#039;s restraining influence departs at that time!

All of this is just another sign of just how late the hour is. Keep looking up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, brother Joseph! </p>
<p>Though technically the church may not have yet reached the full &#8220;harlotry status&#8221; which it will as it comes to worship the Antichrist, it certainly is easy to see by its ready acceptance of the &#8220;doctrines of demons&#8221; being promoted today how it will reach that place in the Tribulation. The spirit of the Antichrist is already obviously successfully at work How much more so once the Rapture occurs and the Holy Spirit&#8217;s restraining influence departs at that time!</p>
<p>All of this is just another sign of just how late the hour is. Keep looking up!</p>
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		<title>By: kim segar</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim segar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 04:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for one comment above. yes the church will be gone. Matthew 24 is in the middle of the tribulation. We can count ourselves worthy to escape the things coming onto the earth. there is not much time left to work, to wins souls. some won&#039;t listen these days but we are to try as the Holy Spirit gives us an opening. we are to tell them three times and if they don&#039;t listen, to turn away. None of us want blood on our hands. They hated Him and they will hate us too, jail us and strike at the truth. we see the happening fast as it is written. so hold onto what you have and that way not become confused. the world and the wolves are in the church and how they love it. It is sad. If only America will humble themselves and turn to G-d and seek Him with all our hearts. It will be a terrible day when they realize they have been left behind. Pray for them. reach out, We see the weather and the earthquskes as told in the bible. In the Asian earthquake the earth moved off its axle. as it is written so we will see more hard ones..and if Bill Clinton talks them into nuking the ail spill, it will be terrible . Russia nuked theirs but it was on land. there are five cracck on this one down deep and is sprewing it different places. a earthquake with our without a nuke bomb will destroy so much and lives lost. such evil in high places and the church is asleep.I can&#039;t tell you how many say, don&#039;t worry, G-d has always taken care of me. so they just are not going to fight the good fight at all. we all know the god of the world rules naions but if the church would wake up, get back to truth and pay attention to who they vote for and then HOLD them accountable and follow the laws of the land, we would not be in this situation. Like in the days of Noah were, so shall it be in the last days. It is almost over..the true church is going home. We must pray and HE will answer but action is inportant. G-d bless all of you Kim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for one comment above. yes the church will be gone. Matthew 24 is in the middle of the tribulation. We can count ourselves worthy to escape the things coming onto the earth. there is not much time left to work, to wins souls. some won&#8217;t listen these days but we are to try as the Holy Spirit gives us an opening. we are to tell them three times and if they don&#8217;t listen, to turn away. None of us want blood on our hands. They hated Him and they will hate us too, jail us and strike at the truth. we see the happening fast as it is written. so hold onto what you have and that way not become confused. the world and the wolves are in the church and how they love it. It is sad. If only America will humble themselves and turn to G-d and seek Him with all our hearts. It will be a terrible day when they realize they have been left behind. Pray for them. reach out, We see the weather and the earthquskes as told in the bible. In the Asian earthquake the earth moved off its axle. as it is written so we will see more hard ones..and if Bill Clinton talks them into nuking the ail spill, it will be terrible . Russia nuked theirs but it was on land. there are five cracck on this one down deep and is sprewing it different places. a earthquake with our without a nuke bomb will destroy so much and lives lost. such evil in high places and the church is asleep.I can&#8217;t tell you how many say, don&#8217;t worry, G-d has always taken care of me. so they just are not going to fight the good fight at all. we all know the god of the world rules naions but if the church would wake up, get back to truth and pay attention to who they vote for and then HOLD them accountable and follow the laws of the land, we would not be in this situation. Like in the days of Noah were, so shall it be in the last days. It is almost over..the true church is going home. We must pray and HE will answer but action is inportant. G-d bless all of you Kim</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.pawcreek.org/open-bible-dialog/the-contest-within-the-church-world/comment-page-1#comment-9774</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great city spoken of at the end of Rev 17 is the whore.  All throughout Rev 17 and 18, this is Bablyon a land of merchants returned on a world-wide scale.  Governments and Church leaders no longer are respected as the worlds great men, because our lively-hood depends on the buying and selling of products.  Your merchants were the worlds great men and by your sorceries the whole world was deceived.  Nahum 3:16 Your merchants have increased like the stars in the sky, like locusts they strip the land and fly away. In a world system that is fragile and subject to corruption, all it takes is one bad egg to stink-up the whole lot.  The world is primed for the anti-christ, with the false prophet&#039;s approval.  All this can not happen until there is first a falling away. 2 Thes.  Christ will not return until this happens.  Fleeing the church is not going to be enough.  Daniel:  There is a rock cut out, but not by human hands that is thrown to the earth and becomes a whole mountain.  This is the kingdom of God established in the end times.  The breakdown of the family and the loss of respect for gender is rooted in our current culture and the new world economic structure.  The church and family has been a refuge, and in many cases, still is a refuge.  The family is the last line of defence, before all hope is lost and the elect are at risk, this is what facilitates the end.  We are so interdependent on one another that we have become fragile.  A country&#039;s sovereignty no longer has meaning because of what has taken place in the last 20 years.  If you flee, flee to the mountain of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great city spoken of at the end of Rev 17 is the whore.  All throughout Rev 17 and 18, this is Bablyon a land of merchants returned on a world-wide scale.  Governments and Church leaders no longer are respected as the worlds great men, because our lively-hood depends on the buying and selling of products.  Your merchants were the worlds great men and by your sorceries the whole world was deceived.  Nahum 3:16 Your merchants have increased like the stars in the sky, like locusts they strip the land and fly away. In a world system that is fragile and subject to corruption, all it takes is one bad egg to stink-up the whole lot.  The world is primed for the anti-christ, with the false prophet&#8217;s approval.  All this can not happen until there is first a falling away. 2 Thes.  Christ will not return until this happens.  Fleeing the church is not going to be enough.  Daniel:  There is a rock cut out, but not by human hands that is thrown to the earth and becomes a whole mountain.  This is the kingdom of God established in the end times.  The breakdown of the family and the loss of respect for gender is rooted in our current culture and the new world economic structure.  The church and family has been a refuge, and in many cases, still is a refuge.  The family is the last line of defence, before all hope is lost and the elect are at risk, this is what facilitates the end.  We are so interdependent on one another that we have become fragile.  A country&#8217;s sovereignty no longer has meaning because of what has taken place in the last 20 years.  If you flee, flee to the mountain of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you tell the difference between a false sign and a true sign?  Which ones are false?  Are you maybe talking about being slain in the spirit false while speaking in tongues is true?  Or is some speaking in tongues false too?  The ones that seem false are the laughing services and the barking like dogs services.  I can&#039;t imagine Jesus doing either of those things so they seem false to me.  Actually, when I think about it, when Jesus touched someone, they were whole, healed, sober, standing upright and strong, not passed out on the ground.  Need some insight here.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you tell the difference between a false sign and a true sign?  Which ones are false?  Are you maybe talking about being slain in the spirit false while speaking in tongues is true?  Or is some speaking in tongues false too?  The ones that seem false are the laughing services and the barking like dogs services.  I can&#8217;t imagine Jesus doing either of those things so they seem false to me.  Actually, when I think about it, when Jesus touched someone, they were whole, healed, sober, standing upright and strong, not passed out on the ground.  Need some insight here.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: John Feeney</title>
		<link>http://www.pawcreek.org/open-bible-dialog/the-contest-within-the-church-world/comment-page-1#comment-9763</link>
		<dc:creator>John Feeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...for that day shall not come, except there be a falling away first... 2Thes. 2:3  The church
as we knew it is so far from the New Testament type church that it would be a strange and apostate thing to Paul.  We are definately in the last days and this falling away is proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;for that day shall not come, except there be a falling away first&#8230; 2Thes. 2:3  The church<br />
as we knew it is so far from the New Testament type church that it would be a strange and apostate thing to Paul.  We are definately in the last days and this falling away is proof.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this isn&#039;t one of many signs we are living in the very last days.......I don&#039;t know what is....

Presbyterian Leaders Approves Gay Clergy Policy 
Presbyterian leaders voted Thursday to allow non-celibate gays in committed relationships to serve as clergy, approving the first of two policy changes that could make their church one of the most gay-friendly major Christian denominations in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this isn&#8217;t one of many signs we are living in the very last days&#8230;&#8230;.I don&#8217;t know what is&#8230;.</p>
<p>Presbyterian Leaders Approves Gay Clergy Policy<br />
Presbyterian leaders voted Thursday to allow non-celibate gays in committed relationships to serve as clergy, approving the first of two policy changes that could make their church one of the most gay-friendly major Christian denominations in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joseph,  I read today in the news that the biennial General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church that the delegates again approved ordaining openly gay or lesbian clergy. Somehow I am thinking that they are going to have some in tact congregations when the rapture takes place.  Do you think that they will buy into the one world religion or have an ahh-ha moment after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joseph,  I read today in the news that the biennial General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church that the delegates again approved ordaining openly gay or lesbian clergy. Somehow I am thinking that they are going to have some in tact congregations when the rapture takes place.  Do you think that they will buy into the one world religion or have an ahh-ha moment after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite a bit of deception in the realm of signs and wonders today and some errors too. I think God is able to straighten these things out as long as the people are seeking the truth and willing to follow. I&#039;m sure God wants to do loads of miracles for His church because He wants His house filled and is not willing for any to perish... It can be a fine line between the devil&#039;s &quot;signs&quot; and God&#039;s, but learning how to discern is a great gift. If Rev.18 takes place after the rapture then the message is for the tribulation saints alone, right? I&#039;m not clear about that. The &quot;salty saints&quot; should be in Heaven by then, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite a bit of deception in the realm of signs and wonders today and some errors too. I think God is able to straighten these things out as long as the people are seeking the truth and willing to follow. I&#8217;m sure God wants to do loads of miracles for His church because He wants His house filled and is not willing for any to perish&#8230; It can be a fine line between the devil&#8217;s &#8220;signs&#8221; and God&#8217;s, but learning how to discern is a great gift. If Rev.18 takes place after the rapture then the message is for the tribulation saints alone, right? I&#8217;m not clear about that. The &#8220;salty saints&#8221; should be in Heaven by then, right?</p>
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