Comments for Paw Creek Ministries http://www.pawcreek.org Pastor Joseph Chambers Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:49:53 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 Comment on They Shall Speak With New Tongues by Jim http://www.pawcreek.org/salty-saints/they-shall-speak-with-new-tongues-2/comment-page-1#comment-16495 Jim Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:49:53 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3818#comment-16495 Dear Pastor Chambers, I am not Pentecostal in that I do not speak in tongues. I believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit have not ceased. I have asked the Lord for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and so far it has not occurred. I have in the past responded to altar calls to receive this Baptism and was told by the minister to just surrender my tohgue and begin speaking in a tongue I did not understand. I refused to do so as I believe the Bible is clear that the Holy Spirit initiates this not the receiver. So my question to you is do I keep on waiting with expectation for it to eventually happen? Brother Jim, God bless you for not playing the dangerous game of just saying something that you did not understand. How under common sense could that cause you to be filled with God's Holy Spirit. Spend meaningful time in the Words and seek the perfect life of Christ. A hungry person after Christ will be filled. Believe it!!!!! Pastor Chambers Dear Pastor Chambers,
I am not Pentecostal in that I do not speak in tongues. I believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit have not ceased. I have asked the Lord for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and so far it has not occurred. I have in the past responded to altar calls to receive this Baptism and was told by the minister to just surrender my tohgue and begin speaking in a tongue I did not understand. I refused to do so as I believe the Bible is clear that the Holy Spirit initiates this not the receiver. So my question to you is do I keep on waiting with expectation for it to eventually happen?

Brother Jim,
God bless you for not playing the dangerous game of just saying something that you did not understand. How under common sense could that cause you to be filled with God’s Holy Spirit. Spend meaningful time in the Words and seek the perfect life of Christ. A hungry person after Christ will be filled. Believe it!!!!!
Pastor Chambers

]]> Comment on They Shall Speak With New Tongues by ARTHUR http://www.pawcreek.org/salty-saints/they-shall-speak-with-new-tongues-2/comment-page-1#comment-16488 ARTHUR Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:46:17 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3818#comment-16488 IN MY STUDIES OF GODS WORD IT IS EVIDENT THAT HE IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION AND WOULD NOT HAVE US IGNORANT. HIS WORD IS CLEAR AND PLAIN. ON THIS BASIS THE ORIGINAL INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES IS RELATED TO LANGUAGES THAT RACES SPEAK OR NATIONALITIES SPEAK. PENTECOST WAS A CLEAR CUT MESAGE that those other language speaking people around the apostleS well undertood in their own language the message of Jeaus Christ such that the Word may be spread. Have been to meetings where babbling and glassolalia persited an there was confusion, no one understood and neither did the babblers. This is not the character of our Lord. I speak spanish, some french and German but those who speak those languages well understand and those not knowledgeable do not understand..The Greek translation is languages, not tongues....Paul the Apostle spoke of the tongues of angels which is not understandable to humans. Why would our Lord speak to us in some language unknown to our understanding and why do we need interpreters in other languages? For understanding. I think our Lord is clear on this subject. IN MY STUDIES OF GODS WORD IT IS EVIDENT THAT HE IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION AND WOULD NOT HAVE US IGNORANT. HIS WORD IS CLEAR AND PLAIN. ON THIS BASIS THE ORIGINAL INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES IS RELATED TO LANGUAGES THAT RACES SPEAK OR NATIONALITIES SPEAK. PENTECOST WAS A CLEAR CUT MESAGE that those other language speaking people around the apostleS well undertood in their own language the message of Jeaus Christ such that the Word may be spread. Have been to meetings where babbling and glassolalia persited an there was confusion, no one understood and neither did the babblers. This is not the character of our Lord. I speak spanish, some french and German but those who speak those languages well understand and those not knowledgeable do not understand..The Greek translation is languages, not tongues….Paul the Apostle spoke of the tongues of angels which is not understandable to humans. Why would our Lord speak to us in some language unknown to our understanding and why do we need interpreters in other languages? For understanding. I think our Lord is clear on this subject.

]]> Comment on They Shall Speak With New Tongues by amos33 http://www.pawcreek.org/salty-saints/they-shall-speak-with-new-tongues-2/comment-page-1#comment-16487 amos33 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:42:31 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3818#comment-16487 Always expect a scholar to come an try to explain the 'supernatural'. I spoke in unknown tongues about 3 months after I got saved and I can promise you, no one in the church knew what I was saying. We don't need bible scholars to explain the supernatural acts of God in our lives. All we need is the Holy Spirit and the Holy Bible. "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1 Corinthians 14:2 Bible calls it an 'unknown tongue' and me, I just agree with the Bible. May the Lord bless you all. amos33 of Texas Always expect a scholar to come an try to explain the ’supernatural’. I spoke in unknown tongues about 3 months after I got saved and I can promise you, no one in the church knew what I was saying. We don’t need bible scholars to explain the supernatural acts of God in our lives. All we need is the Holy Spirit and the Holy Bible.

“For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.” 1 Corinthians 14:2

Bible calls it an ‘unknown tongue’ and me, I just agree with the Bible.

May the Lord bless you all.

amos33 of Texas

]]> Comment on They Shall Speak With New Tongues by Mike Doti http://www.pawcreek.org/salty-saints/they-shall-speak-with-new-tongues-2/comment-page-1#comment-16484 Mike Doti Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:25:16 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3818#comment-16484 Another great article. First let me say that I have spoken in tounges. What people need to understand is that the direction of your speach has to be by the unction of the Holy Spirit. You cannot go to a classroom as some will tell and learn how to do it. You cannot go to a class and learn to be a prophet. All of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit are just that, they are gifts. Gifts given according to what the Holy Spirit knows we can do for the glory of God's Heavenly kingdom.When an entire church body is babbeling all ay once. it is out of God's order and deserves the question of what is directing it. This is why the word says to test every spirit. If someone is telling you that testing the spirit is wrong or a form of blaspheme get away from for good. It is biblical to test and with the evil movements of today is very needed. Tounges do still exist God does not take away what he has already given us. That would make him a respector of person's which the Scriptures say he is not. Another great article. First let me say that I have spoken in tounges. What people need to understand is that the direction of your speach has to be by the unction of the Holy Spirit. You cannot go to a classroom as some will tell and learn how to do it. You cannot go to a class and learn to be a prophet. All of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit are just that, they are gifts. Gifts given according to what the Holy Spirit knows we can do for the glory of God’s Heavenly kingdom.When an entire church body is babbeling all ay once. it is out of God’s order and deserves the question of what is directing it. This is why the word says to test every spirit. If someone is telling you that testing the spirit is wrong or a form of blaspheme get away from for good. It is biblical to test and with the evil movements of today is very needed. Tounges do still exist God does not take away what he has already given us. That would make him a respector of person’s which the Scriptures say he is not.

]]> Comment on Jesus Said, In My Name… They Shall Speak With New Tongues by Ed Savoy Sr http://www.pawcreek.org/sanctuary-sermons/jesus-said-in-my-name-they-shall-speak-with-new-tongues/comment-page-1#comment-16481 Ed Savoy Sr Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:00:02 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3806#comment-16481 What a Devine and great post, words can’t explain the en-dept that Brother Chamber has compiled in these writings for us the readers ! Thank the Lord for Brother Chamber insight. In my prayer time I often speak in tongues it seems that it gives you more reason to pray longer, and I believing that God will answer those prayers as we intercede for others, as we go to the Master for our needs and the needs of others. For along time, before I became a “true Christian,” I thought that speaking in tongues was from Satan and I would distance my self from it. Now as I understand more of God’s Word I do speak in unknown tongue! When I first heard someone speak in tongue, there where many in Church speaking in tongues, and this made me want to get out of that Church as fast as I could. It took a long time for me to understand what power Christian has when speaking in tongues! Thank God, I wanted to know more about it. Thank you Brother Chambers for bring this to us. As the years went by I had learned a great deal more, also what a Christian should believe in! What I believe; The Bible is the inspired and only infallible and authoritative written Word of God. (Ps. 119; Mat. 4:4; Lk. 24:27) There is one God, eternally co-existent in three Persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. (I Jn.5:7) In the Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ, in His Virgin Birth, in His Sinless Life, in His Miracles, in His Vicarious and atoning Death, in His Bodily Resurrection, in His Ascension to the Right Hand of the Father, in His personal future return to this Earth in Power and Glory to rule a thousand years. (Jn. 1:1-4; Eph. 2:13-18; Rev. Chpts.19-20) In the Blessed Hope--the Rapture of the Church at Christ's Coming. (I Thess.4:13-18) The only means of being cleansed from sin is through Repentance and Faith in the Precious Blood of Christ. (Rom.5:1;Eph.2:8-9,13-18) Regeneration by the Holy Spirit is absolutely essential for personal Salvation. (Jn.3:5-8;Titus 3:5) The Redemptive Work of Christ on the Cross provides healing of the human body in answer to believing prayer. (Ex.15:25-26;James 5:14-15;I Pet.2:24) The Baptism with the Holy Spirit, according to Acts 2:4, is given to Believers who ask for it. (Acts 2:4;10:44-46;19:1-7) In the Sanctifying Power of the Holy Spirit by Whose indwelling the Christian is enabled to live a holy life. (Rom.6:3-14;8:1-2,11) In the Resurrection of both the saved and the lost, the one to Everlasting Life and the other to everlasting damnation. (Rev.20:5-6,11-15) God Bless What a Devine and great post, words can’t explain the en-dept that Brother Chamber has compiled in these writings for us the readers !

Thank the Lord for Brother Chamber insight.

In my prayer time I often speak in tongues it seems that it gives you more reason to pray longer, and I believing that God will answer those prayers as we intercede for others, as we go to the Master for our needs and the needs of others.

For along time, before I became a “true Christian,” I thought that speaking in tongues was from Satan and I would distance my self from it.

Now as I understand more of God’s Word I do speak in unknown tongue!

When I first heard someone speak in tongue, there where many in Church speaking in tongues, and this made me want to get out of that Church as fast as I could. It took a long time for me to understand what power Christian has when speaking in tongues!

Thank God, I wanted to know more about it.

Thank you Brother Chambers for bring this to us.

As the years went by I had learned a great deal more, also what a Christian should believe in!

What I believe;

The Bible is the inspired and only infallible and authoritative written Word of God. (Ps. 119; Mat. 4:4; Lk. 24:27)
There is one God, eternally co-existent in three Persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. (I Jn.5:7)
In the Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ, in His Virgin Birth, in His Sinless Life, in His Miracles, in His Vicarious and atoning Death, in His Bodily Resurrection, in His Ascension to the Right Hand of the Father, in His personal future return to this Earth in Power and Glory to rule a thousand years. (Jn. 1:1-4; Eph. 2:13-18; Rev. Chpts.19-20)
In the Blessed Hope–the Rapture of the Church at Christ’s Coming. (I Thess.4:13-18)
The only means of being cleansed from sin is through Repentance and Faith in the Precious Blood of Christ. (Rom.5:1;Eph.2:8-9,13-18)
Regeneration by the Holy Spirit is absolutely essential for personal Salvation. (Jn.3:5-8;Titus 3:5)
The Redemptive Work of Christ on the Cross provides healing of the human body in answer to believing prayer. (Ex.15:25-26;James 5:14-15;I Pet.2:24)
The Baptism with the Holy Spirit, according to Acts 2:4, is given to Believers who ask for it. (Acts 2:4;10:44-46;19:1-7)
In the Sanctifying Power of the Holy Spirit by Whose indwelling the Christian is enabled to live a holy life. (Rom.6:3-14;8:1-2,11)
In the Resurrection of both the saved and the lost, the one to Everlasting Life and the other to everlasting damnation. (Rev.20:5-6,11-15)

God Bless

]]> Comment on They Shall Speak With New Tongues by Christopher http://www.pawcreek.org/salty-saints/they-shall-speak-with-new-tongues-2/comment-page-1#comment-16471 Christopher Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:03:16 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3818#comment-16471 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. (1 Corinthians 14:39) It's that simple; why can't people just believe God and His Word? God doesn't give gifts to those who don't want them. The parable of the tares (Matthew 13:24-30) tells us that there will be false prophets unto the end, but God, by His wonderful grace, also gives us a spirit of discernment. I've heard tongues used to glorify men, but in my heart I knew it was wrongly used. God has given us the gift of life on this creation, but He doesn't stop giving the gift of life just because some people reject Him and abuse it. It's the same for tongues, He gives the gift but if some people abuse then that will be judged of them. Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. (1 Corinthians 14:39)

It’s that simple; why can’t people just believe God and His Word? God doesn’t give gifts to those who don’t want them.

The parable of the tares (Matthew 13:24-30) tells us that there will be false prophets unto the end, but God, by His wonderful grace, also gives us a spirit of discernment. I’ve heard tongues used to glorify men, but in my heart I knew it was wrongly used. God has given us the gift of life on this creation, but He doesn’t stop giving the gift of life just because some people reject Him and abuse it. It’s the same for tongues, He gives the gift but if some people abuse then that will be judged of them.

]]> Comment on Jesus Said, In My Name… They Shall Speak With New Tongues by Garry http://www.pawcreek.org/sanctuary-sermons/jesus-said-in-my-name-they-shall-speak-with-new-tongues/comment-page-1#comment-16469 Garry Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:52:19 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3806#comment-16469 Pastor Steve Hadley of Harvest Family Fellowship Church does a great job of explaining the gift of tongues. Listen to the whole messages as the gift of tongues starts about half way through the message. Pastor Steve Hadley of Harvest Family Fellowship Church does a great job of explaining the gift of tongues. Listen to the whole messages as the gift of tongues starts about half way through the message.

]]> Comment on They Shall Speak With New Tongues by Bill Scudder http://www.pawcreek.org/salty-saints/they-shall-speak-with-new-tongues-2/comment-page-1#comment-16466 Bill Scudder Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:42:52 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3818#comment-16466 Brother: I agree with all you say about tongues except that it is not a "unknown" tongue. The word unknown is not in the greek and was added. For an explanation please read the following. http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/200501/200501_Glossolalia_7.cfm Brother:

I agree with all you say about tongues except that it is not a “unknown” tongue. The word unknown is not in the greek and was added. For an explanation please read the following.

http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/200501/200501_Glossolalia_7.cfm

]]> Comment on Jesus Said, In My Name… They Shall Speak With New Tongues by Jean Hynes http://www.pawcreek.org/sanctuary-sermons/jesus-said-in-my-name-they-shall-speak-with-new-tongues/comment-page-1#comment-16364 Jean Hynes Thu, 02 Sep 2010 01:28:49 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3806#comment-16364 The Apostle Paul told the Corinthians, "Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. But many are still ignorant today because the church has neglected to teach on these things. Jesus said, "THESE SIGNS SHALL FOLLOW THEM THAT BELIEVE." Who would dare to dispute the Son of the Living God? It's the same as if a house were wired for electricity but no one contacted the Electric Co. to turn on the power. You need to get in touch with Jesus so that you can do the works and carry on His work. You cannot do it without the power of God on you. Tongues may be that of men or of angels (1 Cor. 13:1-3). Like prophecy, it is God's desire that speaking in tongues be practiced by all, but many cannot because of lack of understanding, faith, consecration, and yieldedness to the Spirit. In private it is speaking to God alone, but in church it is for edification. "Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he that comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." (Hebrews 11:6) The Apostle Paul told the Corinthians, “Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have
you ignorant. But many are still ignorant today because the church has neglected to teach on
these things. Jesus said, “THESE SIGNS SHALL FOLLOW THEM THAT BELIEVE.” Who would dare to dispute the Son of the Living God?

It’s the same as if a house were wired for electricity but no one contacted the Electric Co. to
turn on the power. You need to get in touch with Jesus so that you can do the works and carry on
His work. You cannot do it without the power of God on you.

Tongues may be that of men or of angels (1 Cor. 13:1-3). Like prophecy, it is God’s desire that
speaking in tongues be practiced by all, but many cannot because of lack of understanding, faith, consecration, and yieldedness to the Spirit. In private it is speaking to God alone, but in church it is for edification.

“Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he that comes to God must believe that He is
and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.” (Hebrews 11:6)

]]> Comment on Jesus Said, In My Name… They Shall Speak With New Tongues by lisha http://www.pawcreek.org/sanctuary-sermons/jesus-said-in-my-name-they-shall-speak-with-new-tongues/comment-page-1#comment-16356 lisha Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:23:34 +0000 http://www.pawcreek.org/?p=3806#comment-16356 People lets not run away from the truth as a child of God one must speak in tongues for Jesus said in John 3:8 The wind (spirit) blows wherever it will,and you hear its sound,but you dont know where it is coming from or where its going.So is every one who is born of the spirit.Read it as translated from the Greek and we will understand it clearly ,even Paul explain it clearly (Gal 4:6) Rom 8:15-16,1 corithians 13,Corinthians 14:1-25 For anyone who speaks in a tongue(language)does not speak to men but to God.People who hate tongues then how do you speak to God ,Tongues are there to edify(build)you.Brothers i received the holy spirit because i was hungry for God and needed Him(Jesus) to forgive me,i got baptised and cried out to God to forgive me,and when the word was preached to me i moved forward to receive from Him and as i cried to Him i dont know what happened i flew and landed on the floor cried out to God ,Jesus Jesus Jesus forgive me and what i remember is a voice saying i have forgiven you i have forgiven you,i laid there for maybe more than an hour tears streaming out i could not stand up,i was drunk in the spirit and was muttering a language i did not know,My wife had to support me and to drive i couldnt drive i was shaking like i had fever uncontrolable.People thats why the Devil is blinding people from the truth because he knows the power of it.Ever since i speak more in tongues and His presence just covers me its so amazing.As it was with Moses the tabenacle and cicurmsision so it is so with Jesus and the Holy Ghost its like a mark which Jesus gives to His Children whom God has called and chosen.iam moving from golry to glory in Gods presence.Remove your pride and judgemental opinions and accept Jesus as your savior and see what God will do.Thats why there is no power when the gospel is being preached and the house of God taken as a place of entertaiment.Mak 16 v 15-19 Whoever believes and is baptisedwill be saved ......Jesus says in my name they will drive out demons, in my name they will speak in new tongues,in my namethey will pick up snakes with their hands ....Jesus even informed them not to do anything until they received the holy Ghost Acts 1:4,and in Acts 2 they received the Holy Ghost and spoke in other tongues.The new birth is through the holy spirit that is sent by God to help us,comfort us guild us in all truth,how can you have the truth when you dont have the holy Ghost,we are trying to build our on way not Gods way.The bible explains clearly everything i dont know why we question the word of God,may God open our understanding. People lets not run away from the truth as a child of God one must speak in tongues for Jesus said in John 3:8 The wind (spirit) blows wherever it will,and you hear its sound,but you dont know where it is coming from or where its going.So is every one who is born of the spirit.Read it as translated from the Greek and we will understand it clearly ,even Paul explain it clearly (Gal 4:6) Rom 8:15-16,1 corithians 13,Corinthians 14:1-25 For anyone who speaks in a tongue(language)does not speak to men but to God.People who hate tongues then how do you speak to God ,Tongues are there to edify(build)you.Brothers i received the holy spirit because i was hungry for God and needed Him(Jesus) to forgive me,i got baptised and cried out to God to forgive me,and when the word was preached to me i moved forward to receive from Him and as i cried to Him i dont know what happened i flew and landed on the floor cried out to God ,Jesus Jesus Jesus forgive me and what i remember is a voice saying i have forgiven you i have forgiven you,i laid there for maybe more than an hour tears streaming out i could not stand up,i was drunk in the spirit and was muttering a language i did not know,My wife had to support me and to drive i couldnt drive i was shaking like i had fever uncontrolable.People thats why the Devil is blinding people from the truth because he knows the power of it.Ever since i speak more in tongues and His presence just covers me its so amazing.As it was with Moses the tabenacle and cicurmsision so it is so with Jesus and the Holy Ghost its like a mark which Jesus gives to His Children whom God has called and chosen.iam moving from golry to glory in Gods presence.Remove your pride and judgemental opinions and accept Jesus as your savior and see what God will do.Thats why there is no power when the gospel is being preached and the house of God taken as a place of entertaiment.Mak 16 v 15-19 Whoever believes and is baptisedwill be saved ……Jesus says in my name they will drive out demons, in my name they will speak in new tongues,in my namethey will pick up snakes with their hands ….Jesus even informed them not to do anything until they received the holy Ghost Acts 1:4,and in Acts 2 they received the Holy Ghost and spoke in other tongues.The new birth is through the holy spirit that is sent by God to help us,comfort us guild us in all truth,how can you have the truth when you dont have the holy Ghost,we are trying to build our on way not Gods way.The bible explains clearly everything i dont know why we question the word of God,may God open our understanding.

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